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Podcast Ep 34: AI, Humanity, & Unlocking Education's Future w/ Matt Miller

Podcast Ep 34: AI, Humanity, & Unlocking Education's Future w/ Matt Miller

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In this episode of The Optimalist, Sara talks to Matt Miller in a captivating discussion at the crossroads of artificial intelligence and education. Thogether, they paint a vivid picture of how AI might revolutionize the landscape of learning in a world that's hurtling forward at breakneck speed. Amidst the excitement of technological advancements, the conversation stresses the crucial need to anchor education in the essence of humanity.

Sara and Matt don’t just scratch the surface; ethical dilemmas around AI take center stage. Questions about cheating and the broader implications of AI on society and future generations spark a profound exploration. The mission is crystal clear: unravel the mysteries of AI for educators and shed light on the essential adaptations required in this era of transformative change.

The heart of their discussion revolves around the significance of attention, mindfulness, and authentic human connections in the educational sphere dominated by AI. Collaboration across various domains becomes a rallying call, urging educators to break free from echo chambers and seek diverse perspectives beyond their comfort zones.

The vision they paint for the future of teaching is captivating. It's not about simply delivering content; rather, it's guiding the human side of learning while AI handles content. The episode crescendos with a powerful call to place genuine human connections at the forefront, envisioning schools as vibrant hubs of community, not just spaces for academic pursuits.

For educators seeking guidance on navigating the integration of AI in education, this episode serves as an invaluable compass. It emphasizes the need for adaptability and underscores the irreplaceable value of nurturing human connections to sculpt the future of learning.

Key reflection: Where do you think education will go in the age of AI, and how will the nature of us being human show up in the future of school?


Links Mentioned:

Matt Miller on the web: Ditch That Textbook

Matt on Twitter: Matt Miller 🗑️ (@jmattmiller) / X 

Email Matt:

Ditch Summit: Ditch Summit  

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  • Music: “Goodnight, Shapeshifter” by MusicForNothing, used under Creative Commons BY-ND 3.0.

Audio Editing & Production: Tim Belmont (@tbelmontedu)